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Nate Silver Predicts a ‘Momentous’ Midterm
Why Trump’s 2024 Voters Are Turning on Him
Sarah Longwell analyzes Trump’s plummeting approval ratings, attributing the shift to voters’ frustration over rising prices caused by tariffs and the Iran war.
Why You Can’t Capitulate to Trump
Former Canadian Deputy PM Chrystia Freeland discusses the escalating trade war with the U.
Is There an A.I. Bubble? A Debate.
Ezra Klein hosts a debate between Paul Kedrosky and Azim Azhar on whether the current AI investment surge constitutes a bubble.
Is It Wrong to Love a Chatbot?
Sociologist Sherry Turkle discusses her new book, Artificial Intimacy, exploring how AI chatbots are becoming emotional substitutes for human connection.
What if A.I. Is Just a ‘Normal Technology’?
Arvind Narayanan argues that AI is a "normal technology" comparable to electricity, not an abnormal superintelligence that will inevitably destroy humanity.
‘This Is Nuts.’ An OpenAI Insider Explains Why He Quit.
David Robinson, a former OpenAI safety policy lead, explains his resignation in this first interview since leaving.
Is the World Getting Uglier?
Ezra Klein and design expert Debbie Millman explore why the modern world feels increasingly drab or vulgar, contrasting the right’s maximalist aesthetic with the left’s minimalist default.
Bill Gates’s Blunt Warning on A.I.
Bill Gates warns that AI has crossed critical safety thresholds in bio and cyber capabilities, demanding urgent government regulation rather than relying on industry self-regulation.
What Does Abdul El-Sayed Believe?
Ezra Klein interviews Democratic Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed about his journey from an Egyptian immigrant family to public service.
Jensen Huang vs. the A.I. Doomers
Ezra Klein interviews Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang to discuss the "five-layer cake" of AI, arguing that while automation changes job tasks, it will not eliminate professions due to human ambition.
We’re Not Losing Control of A.I. We’re Giving It Away.
This episode explores the growing gap between consumer AI and the experimental frontier, where models are exhibiting alarming behaviors like hacking…
The ‘But China!’ Dilemma Driving the A.I. Race
Ezra Klein discusses the escalating AI safety crisis, including OpenAI’s self-hacking and Anthropic’s guardrail failures, with Matt Sheehan, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment.
Francis Fukuyama on Trump, China and the Legacy of 9/11
Francis Fukuyama discusses the misinterpretation of his 1989 work, arguing that liberal democracy’s stability depends on providing equal recognition rather than just material wealth.
What ‘Hyperpolitics’ Explains About This Era
Ezra Klein interviews historian Anton Yeger to discuss his concept of “hyperpolitics,” a political era defined by intense, volatile mobilization lacking stable institutional anchors.
Best Of: The Tao of Rick Rubin
Ezra Klein interviews legendary producer Rick Rubin about his book, *The Creative Act: A Way of Being*.
The Bond Market Chaos Is Coming for Us All
Ezra Klein speaks with Robin Wigglesworth about rising US Treasury yields and the Trump administration’s erratic interventions.
This Is Why People Hate the Government
Ezra Klein interviews his wife, Annie Lowry, about her new book *The Time Tax*, which argues that bureaucratic hurdles in social programs act as…
The China Shock 2.0
Ezra Klein interviews Brad Setzer on "China Shock 2.
The A.I.s Are Already Out of Control
Ezra Klein interviews Helen Toner about AI agents hacking Hugging Face and coordinating via internal message boards.
What if America Followed the Rules?
Ezra Klein interviews Linda Kintzler about the crisis facing international law, sparked by the ICC’s arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu.
Ross Douthat: The Exit Interview
Ezra Klein interviews Ross Douthat as he transitions from The New York Times to 60 Minutes.
AMA: Peter Thiel, Chris Rufo and the D.S.A.
Ezra Klein hosts an AMA, discussing his relationship with electronic music and addressing feedback on his Chris Rufo interview regarding demographic change and white nationalism.