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The China Shock 2.0

Aug 21, 2026 · 1h 5m

Summary

Ezra Klein interviews Brad Setzer on "China Shock 2.0," where China dominates advanced manufacturing like EVs and AI, unlike the low-end goods of the past. Setzer explains how state-directed investment and high savings fuel this export surge, threatening European industries and creating global overcapacity. The discussion covers currency manipulation, supply chain weaponization, and critiques of Trump’s broad tariffs and Biden’s industrial policy as responses to this strategic rivalry.

Topics discussed

Introduction: Yale New Haven Health and the China Shock China Shock 1.0: Impact on US Labor Markets and Politics The Liberal Consensus: WTO Entry and Cheap Goods China's Unique Economic System: State Control and Social Insurance Divergent Wealth Distribution: US Social Safety Net vs China China Shock 2.0: Property Crisis and Export Surge Impact on G7: Germany's Manufacturing Decline Rise of Chinese EVs: Supply Chain and Subsidies Sponsor Breaks: Yale Health and NYT Cooking Defining Overcapacity: Global Auto Industry Struggles Strategic Risks: Supply Chain Weaponization and Rare Earths Currency Manipulation and WTO Rule Violations Trump's Trade Policy: Tariffs and Retaliation Biden's Industrial Policy: Chips and Clean Energy Sponsor Breaks: Yale Health and NYT Games Critique of Broad Tariffs: Allies and Aluminum Leverage and Outcomes: Treasuries and Trade Deficits Future Scenarios: AI Competition and Inevitability Interdependence vs Dependence: Strategic Decoupling China's Domestic Weaknesses and Recommended Reading
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