Ezra Klein interviews Linda Kintzler about the crisis facing international law, sparked by the ICC’s arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu. They explore the tension between idealistic rules and political reality, contrasting Trump’s unilateralism with a Democratic push to restore the rules-based order. The discussion highlights how international law serves as both a moral framework and a tool of power, questioning its ability to prevent atrocities or provide meaningful accountability in conflicts like Gaza and Ukraine.
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