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The iPhone Duo should have been an iPad

Oct 23, 2026 · 1h 49m

Summary

The Vergecast hosts debate the iPhone Duo review, with Nilay Patel defending his seven score as a "fun" first-generation product while Neel argues it is the "worst iPhone ever made" due to its $2,000 price tag and broken app ecosystem. They discuss the three stages of app optimization on the foldable, noting that many updates are "vibe-coded" and still broken, and compare the device to a "Corvette" rather than a standard iPhone. The episode also covers a global internet crisis caused by AI agents discovering critical PHP vulnerabilities, which allowed attackers to exploit memory errors at s…

Topics discussed

Sponsors and intro: The 'No Sevens' plan iPhone Duo review: Initial impressions and scoring App optimization issues and developer criticism John Gruber's review: 'Worst iPhone ever made' Hardware vs. software: The foldable compromise App Store future and shipping delays iPhone Duo as an iPad: Device identity crisis Apple's innovation strategy and AI interface Sponsors: AWS, Bitwarden, and Atlassian PHP vulnerability: AI finds critical security flaw The global internet crisis and patching race Offensive vs. defensive AI arms race AI shopping agents: Muse and Amazon friction Ticket scalping and DDoS-like AI behavior Muse user experience and business model shifts Instagram's internal conflict with Meta AI Sponsors: Ring and IDRA Brendan Carr segment: FCC threats to broadcasters Lightning Round: Arc browser shutdown and Dia Lightning Round: Meta terms of service update Lightning Round: Netflix strategy and appointment viewing Lightning Round: Gemini fragmentation and sign-off
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