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Patient Zero

Aug 21, 2026 · 51m

Summary

This Radiolab episode explores the concept of "Patient Zero" through three distinct stories. It begins with Typhoid Mary, the first documented healthy carrier of typhoid fever, and her controversial quarantine. The show then debunks the myth of Gaetan Dugas as the origin of the AIDS epidemic, tracing HIV’s true roots to a chimpanzee spillover in Cameroon around 1908. Finally, it investigates the origins of the high-five, contrasting a viral internet claim with the likely invention by gay baseball player Glenn Burke.

Topics discussed

Introduction: Live taping and the theme of Patient Zero The origin of the Typhoid Mary story George Soper investigates Mary Mallon Mary's quarantine on North Brother Island Mary's release, relapse, and final confinement Sponsor break: Capital One Gaetan Dugas: The myth of AIDS Patient Zero Genetic evidence disproving Dugas as the source Tracing HIV origins to 1908 in Congo SIV in chimpanzees and the spillover event Urbanization and the spread of HIV to cities Sponsor break: Capital One The viral story of the high five's invention Glenn Burke and the true origin of the high five The hoax behind the Lamont Sleets story Other claims and the legacy of Glenn Burke Conclusion and staff credits
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