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Ross Douthat and Ezra Klein on the Art of Persuasion

Aug 27, 2026 · 1h 13m

Summary

Ezra Klein interviews Ross Douthy, who discusses his transition from early blogging to becoming a New York Times columnist and now a 60 Minutes correspondent. They explore the evolution of media, contrasting the conversational early blogosphere with today’s polarized social media landscape. Douthy also analyzes the shift in American conservatism from the religious right to a post-Christian, populist movement under Trump, reflecting on the decline of traditional Christian ethics in politics.

Topics discussed

YouTube Premium Sponsorship Ross Douthat's Career Path from The Atlantic to Blogging The Rise of Political Blogging Post-9/11 Evolution of Media Currency and McCain's Decline Being a Conservative Voice in Liberal Institutions The Rise of Populism and the Woke Backlash Decline of Christianity and Rise of Post-Religious Right National Greatness Conservatism vs. Trumpism YouTube Premium Sponsorship Catholicism's Role in Modern Politics and Leftist Spirituality Shift from Written Journalism to On-Camera Interviewing Investigating UFOs and Final Book Recommendations
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