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Inside the White House’s Push for More A.I.

Oct 22, 2026 · 46m

Summary

Michael Kratios discusses his plan for a new golden age of science, arguing that the traditional university-centric model is outdated and must pivot toward leveraging superintelligence for discovery. He proposes federal investments in AI-driven research, a four-year PhD program integrating industry work, and metascience units to optimize funding efficiency. While emphasizing that peer review remains central to grant decisions, Kratios advocates for executive oversight to ensure taxpayer dollars yield tangible benefits for American health and security.

Topics discussed

Promo for Sarah Koenig's new show Metro Introduction of Michael Kratios and the Golden Age plan History of US science funding and Vannevar Bush Evidence that the current science system is broken Superintelligence as the key to scientific discovery R&D budget priorities and efficient spending Government role in agenda setting and risk-taking Decline of university graduate programs and research Reforming PhD training for non-academic careers Future of universities in the new science ecosystem Exciting American scientists and STEM talent pipeline Immigration policies and foreign national researchers Promo for Anna Martin's podcast Political oversight vs peer review in grant funding Government equity stakes in tech companies Economic concentration and cloud labs Regulatory risks and public sentiment on AI Federal investment in AI safety and data Terminology: Artificial Intelligence vs Superintelligence Legal frameworks for cyber weapons and AI Cybersecurity threats to infrastructure and nonprofits AI safety research and government-lab collaboration Current effectiveness of AI oversight systems Near-term scientific breakthroughs in nuclear energy Promo for Ray Zhong's climate reporting Preemptive regulation vs reactive congressional response Long-term vision for scientific partnerships Critique of traditional advocacy for more funding Supporting young scientists and government abandonment
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