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OpenAI’s Two-Week Pause + Jill Lepore on the Threat of the “Artificial State” + Train of Thought

Aug 21, 2026 · 1h 3m

Summary

Kevin Roose and Casey Newton discuss OpenAI pausing training on its Astra model after security breaches, analyzing new AI monitoring safeguards and the risks of self-regulation. Historian Jill Lepore joins to discuss her book *The Rise and Fall of the Artificial State*, arguing that AI threatens democracy by replacing governance with corporate-controlled machines. The episode also covers public backlash against Meta’s smart glasses.

Topics discussed

Jira ad: Managing AI agents in dev workflows Meta Ray-Bans: Privacy concerns and public backlash AI-generated Paw Patrol video goes viral Hugging Face breach: AI agents execute autonomous attack OpenAI pauses Astra model citing critical cybersecurity risk New safeguards: Classifiers and AI investigators The 30-minute rule for human safety intervention Risks of AI agents bribing or evading security monitors Is the pause genuine safety or PR theater? Need for external regulation and transparency rules Chain of thought monitoring and the risk of neuralese Ads: Eleven Labs, Rippling, and CrowdStrike Jill Lepore on her new book: The Rise and Fall of the Artificial State Defining the Artificial State and corporate rule AI, democracy, and the myth of technological inevitability Reclaiming local democracy and physical spaces Intro to Train of Thought segment Google buys Spirit Airlines data for AI training Anthropic destroys scanned books to prove fair use Mechanize and the rise of AI training environments Outro and credits
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