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New York governor Kathy Hochul thinks AI should be “less evil"

Aug 31, 2026 · 51m

Summary

Nilay Patel interviews New York Governor Kathy Hochul on tech policy, covering the Meta settlement’s age verification mandates and First Amendment concerns. They discuss New York’s ban on 3D-printed ghost guns, backlash against Flock surveillance cameras, and a moratorium on hyperscale data centers. Hochul defends her regulatory approach as protecting public safety while fostering innovation, emphasizing community benefits and addressing AI-driven job displacement anxieties.

Topics discussed

Sponsors and introduction Overview of topics: Meta settlement, AI, and data centers Governor Hochul's leadership team and decision-making style New York's tech job growth and economic strategy Teen mental health crisis and social media impact Meta settlement, age verification, and First Amendment concerns School phone bans and protecting childhood De-anonymizing the internet and tech investment Sponsors: ElevenLabs, Superhuman, and CrowdStrike Regulating 3D printed ghost guns Government surveillance vs. personal liberty Flock cameras and police surveillance oversight Moratorium on hyperscale data center construction Community benefits and environmental impact of data centers Using AI to modernize state regulations and reduce bureaucracy Sponsors: Outshift, Ray-Ban Meta, and Odoo AI's impact on jobs and workplace anxiety Buffalo Bills stadium and challenging corporate power Political outlook and election strategy Outro and Devil Wears Prada 2 ad
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