Can CEO John Ternus find Apple's next big thing?
Sep 21, 2026 · 58m
Summary
Eli Pariser interviews Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman about Apple’s transition to CEO John Ternus, highlighting the launch of the foldable iPhone Duo and the company’s pivot toward AI. Gurman details a massive executive overhaul, including the departures of Phil Schiller and the elevation of Johny Ive’s former team, while analyzing Apple’s cautious AI strategy and its contentious lawsuit against OpenAI. The episode explores how Apple is redefining its corporate culture and product roadmap to navigate the shift from the iPhone era to the AI era.
Topics discussed
Sponsors: CrowdStrike and Dopple
Introduction and guest Mark Gurman
Reflections on covering Apple events
John Ternus's first event and leadership style
Apple's AI strategy and the 'Intelligent Personal Hub'
Analysis of the iPhone Duo and safe product choices
Upcoming hardware: Home hub, glasses, and wearables
Eras of Apple: Jobs, Cook, and the Vision Pro backlash
Leadership transition and the iPhone Duo timing
Sponsors: Upwork, Shopify, and CrowdStrike
The succession plan and executive retirements
Tim Cook's 'Hotel California' strategy and retained roles
Phil Schiller's departure and remaining responsibilities
Company structure, culture, and the Chief Design Officer role
Johny Ive's departure and the Apple Silicon legacy
Leadership hierarchy and retention challenges
Apple's AI strategy: Google partnership vs. in-house models
OpenAI lawsuit and the future of AI interfaces
Johny Ive's new venture and screenless AI devices
Sponsors: Framer, Pipedrive, and T-Mobile
AirPods with cameras and Visual Intelligence
Privacy concerns and the social backlash to ambient AI
Apple Watch features and the privacy blind spot
The future of foldables and the iPhone Duo
John Ternus's legacy and the next Apple centerpiece
Outro, credits, and final sponsors
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