Decoder with Nilay Patel Decoder with Nilay Patel

Bluesky’s new CEO wants a big tent, not a bubble

Aug 3, 2026 · 1h 15m

Summary

Nilay Patel interviews Tony Schneider, the new CEO of Bluesky, about balancing the company’s dual focus on its consumer app and the open AT Protocol. Schneider discusses the "Atmosphere" ecosystem, the shift toward private communities, and the challenge of scaling a 50-person team to support thousands of interoperable apps. He compares the current social web landscape to the early days of the internet, emphasizing long-term protocol decisions over short-term product changes, while addressing how Bluesky maintains its text-first identity amidst competitors pivoting to video.

Topics discussed

Sponsors: ServiceNow and CrowdStrike Intro: Tony Schneider and the open social web The vision: App Protocol and the Atmosphere Tony's background and transition to CEO Decision-making: Time scales and reversibility Balancing the app and the protocol StandardSite and cross-platform content Company structure and team organization Composable moderation and trust & safety Private data and community-based moderation Sponsors: Quo, Framer, and ServiceNow Prioritization and irreversible decisions Protocol evolution and private data features Open web philosophy and traffic sharing Supporting non-text content and link cards Decentralization, identity, and governance Sponsors: IBM Quantum, Upwork, and Indeed Monetization models and avoiding ads Ecosystem growth and building new apps AI in software development and product velocity Interoperability with Mastodon and ActivityPub User demographics, politics, and future outlook Outro and final sponsor: Uber Eats
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