The Everything Vaccine
Aug 25, 2026 · 40m
Summary
Host Ben Bradford explores the history of pandemics and the race to develop universal vaccines with science writer Carl Zimmer and immunologist Juliet Morrison. The episode covers the failures of past flu responses, the promise of broad-spectrum shots targeting stable viral parts, and the surprising potential of the BCG vaccine to boost general immunity. While experts agree a single "everything vaccine" is unlikely, they highlight significant progress in creating layered defenses against mutating pathogens.
Topics discussed
Intro: Swine flu, pandemic history, and the quest for universal vaccines
What are viruses? Their biology, prevalence, and role in human evolution
The 1918 Flu Pandemic: History, misconceptions, and the chicken egg vaccine
The race against mutation: Why current flu vaccines require annual updates
How vaccines work: The 'scented scarf' analogy and immune system training
Edward Jenner and the first vaccine: Cowpox immunity against smallpox
Universal flu vaccines: Targeting stable viral parts and funding challenges
Training the immune system: A new approach beyond specific antigens
The BCG vaccine: 13 years of cow bile and the fight against tuberculosis
BCG's hidden power: Broad protection against unrelated diseases
Stanford research: A nasal spray that boosts general lung immunity
Conclusion: Can we ever truly solve disease? The limits of an 'everything vaccine'
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