Are We Doomed? Are We Doomed?

The Everything Vaccine

Aug 25, 2026 · 40m

Summary

Host Ben Bradford explores the history of pandemics and the race to develop universal vaccines with science writer Carl Zimmer and immunologist Juliet Morrison. The episode covers the failures of past flu responses, the promise of broad-spectrum shots targeting stable viral parts, and the surprising potential of the BCG vaccine to boost general immunity. While experts agree a single "everything vaccine" is unlikely, they highlight significant progress in creating layered defenses against mutating pathogens.

Topics discussed

Intro: Swine flu, pandemic history, and the quest for universal vaccines What are viruses? Their biology, prevalence, and role in human evolution The 1918 Flu Pandemic: History, misconceptions, and the chicken egg vaccine The race against mutation: Why current flu vaccines require annual updates How vaccines work: The 'scented scarf' analogy and immune system training Edward Jenner and the first vaccine: Cowpox immunity against smallpox Universal flu vaccines: Targeting stable viral parts and funding challenges Training the immune system: A new approach beyond specific antigens The BCG vaccine: 13 years of cow bile and the fight against tuberculosis BCG's hidden power: Broad protection against unrelated diseases Stanford research: A nasal spray that boosts general lung immunity Conclusion: Can we ever truly solve disease? The limits of an 'everything vaccine'
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