Are We Doomed? Are We Doomed?

What Ever Happened to the Ozone Hole?

Aug 18, 2026 · 37m

Summary

Host Ben Bradford interviews atmospheric scientist Susan Solomon about the discovery and global effort to heal the ozone layer. The episode details how CFCs caused the ozone hole, the political and industrial challenges in banning them, and the eventual success of the Montreal Protocol. Solomon argues that the "three Ps"—personal, perceptible, and practical—drove this victory and offers hope for addressing climate change.

Topics discussed

Introduction: The ozone layer mystery and Susan Solomon The rise of CFCs: From refrigerators to hairspray Early warnings: Scientists discover ozone depletion risks Public action: Boycotts and the ban on aerosol sprays The Antarctic discovery: A shocking hole in the ozone Susan Solomon's research: Graphing the ozone hole by hand Antarctic expedition: Proving the cause on a stormy roof Global response: The Montreal Protocol and industry shifts The messy truth: Denial, luck, and political hurdles Industry resistance and the near-failure of the treaty Lessons learned: The three Ps of environmental action Applying ozone lessons to the climate change crisis
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